Trump says:
Most Democrats oppose the wall. Both statements can’t be true. I think they’re both lies with no documentation to support them.
Poll: Federal Employees Overwhelmingly Oppose Shutdown, Only 30 Percent Support Wall https://t.co/CiOAOO6a1G pic.twitter.com/GXtCsRDooO
— GovExec (@GovExec) January 10, 2019
We were not elected to serve one party – we were elected with the support of Republicans, Independents, and Democrats to work for all Americans. This shutdown is unnecessary, dangerous, and wrong.https://t.co/kM3IwO2g0U
— Congressman TJ Cox (@RepTjCox) January 5, 2019
The majority is still opposed to the wall and blame Trump for the shutdown.
As I saw someone say on Twitter, prior presidents knew when to give up because they did not have support: Clinton abandoned health care and Bush gave up on privatization of Social Security.
This phony has no idea how to make a deal. He is surrounded by the cocoon of right wing media and doesn’t know what the public really thinks.
CNN POLL CONDUCTED BY SSRS
January 10-11
More Responsible for
Government Shutdown?Donald Trump 55%
Democrats in Congress 32%
Both 9%Feelings About Building a
Wall Along the Entire
Border with Mexico?Favor 39%
Oppose 56%— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 13, 2019
Oof.
Here's another poll from CNN. Even worse for Trump than Post/ABC.
55% blame Trump for shutdown; only 32% blame Ds.
Only 39% support wall; 56% oppose.
Trump approval: 37-57.https://t.co/MJZKmwhLC0
Again: https://t.co/S1HaQwEV4c
— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) January 13, 2019
It should be noted that this poll shows support for the wall is up but it’s still a minority position.
JUST IN: Support for a border wall has increased to 42%, new @ABC News/WaPo poll finds, the highest percentage in ABC/WaPo polling since Donald Trump first proposed it. 54% are opposed. https://t.co/HToq9kGllG pic.twitter.com/tMgj162YbH
— ABC News (@ABC) January 13, 2019
ICYMI
Building a wall between the U.S. and Mexico should be:
An immediate priority for Congress 28%
Not an immediate priority 19%
Not a priority at all 50%
(NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll, 11/28 – 12/4/18)https://t.co/y7sFCxMUS3— PollingReport.com (@pollreport) January 6, 2019
Poll also illustrates Trump’s uncanny ability to dissuade people from his views. Competent presidents do the opposite. https://t.co/XpW1LmFHGu
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) January 9, 2019
Biggest news in this poll isn’t the partisan divide on the wall; it’s that people aren’t buying what @realDonaldTrump is selling. Trump has lost on his crisis narrative: 66% to 31% oppose invoking an emergency to build his wall. Only 24% agree w/Trump that situation is a “crisis” https://t.co/PmengeDtv3
— Joel Benenson (@benensonj) January 13, 2019
In latest @CNN poll just 38% of public supported #BorderWall – only 33% if told Mexico was not paying. In @QuinnipiacPoll no more than 43% have ever supported the wall. https://t.co/8QDK0KDfQT
— Ronald Brownstein (@RonBrownstein) January 3, 2019
A sign of how bad Trump is at negotiating. Declaring a national emergency would be highly unpopular, even more so than the wall itself, and would create a lot of awkward arguments within the GOP. Threatening to declare one creates an incentive for Democrats *not* to compromise. https://t.co/9nZ92heXPn
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) January 13, 2019
True, though support for the wall is rising esp among Republicans according to WaPo/ABC and I wonder if that’s the driving force. https://t.co/5nppHlCYya
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) January 13, 2019
Of course, Trump lies about polls like he lies about everything else:
Trump: "I just saw a poll, 75%, it was on Fox, but I just saw a poll, 75% that immigration was so important." Not sure what Fox said, but the newest poll, from the AP, found that 49% say immigration is a top-five problem; 65% of Republicans. pic.twitter.com/haPVowsjfA
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 6, 2019
He lies when he says he never said Mexico would pay for the wall with a check. Why does he tell lies that are easily disproven?
He lies when he says his new trade deal would pay for the wall – the benefits would go to businesses.
Trump's campaign website said Mexico would "make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion" https://t.co/cAJ9e5uR8z
— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) January 10, 2019
Ways that Mexico would pay for the wall, per Trump at various points:
– Writing a check or else
– Revised trade deals
– A tax
– Being cowed by not getting a meeting
– Reimbursement/other
– Getting out-dealed
https://t.co/n5FXOhLzlB— Philip Bump (@pbump) January 10, 2019
This is another big lie, and very specifically inaccurate. His campaign’s Paying For The Wall proposal claimed Mexico was going to make a one-time payment of up to $10 billion. https://t.co/u9auji3yGM https://t.co/RICpu1epao
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 10, 2019
He said they would need to make one-time payment of $5 billion to $10 billion, or he would seize remittances. That was literally his plan. https://t.co/ybOVYX1HKd
— Glenn Kessler (@GlennKesslerWP) January 10, 2019
Remember how Trump said earlier today that he never said Mexico would pay for the wall with a check? We'll you'll just never guess what Trump said on Hannity in 2016. https://t.co/t8qWlA7z5U
— Philip Bump (@pbump) January 11, 2019
1) Congress hasn’t approved the deal yet, and there’s a decent chance they won’t;
2) it’s not billions of dollars better;
3) Even if it was, it wouldn’t yield the tax revenue necessary to fund your idiotic wall. https://t.co/yUYiEghPyv— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) January 11, 2019
“He did say it — at least 212 times during his campaign and dozens more since he took office. And he put it in writing — in a March 2016 memo to news outlets that was then posted on his campaign website.” https://t.co/pbinb81n5T
— Jenna Johnson (@wpjenna) January 11, 2019
Trump in 2016 on Mexico: "They may even write us a check."
Trump today on Mexico: "I never said they're going to write out a check." pic.twitter.com/OwgD0vyMql
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 10, 2019
Turns out he DID say Mexico would write a check! And his new claim that NAFTA 2.0 will “indirectly” pay for it is pure BS: Any added money from that trade deal would go only to private companies and their shareholders, NOT to the American taxpayers who’d foot the bill. https://t.co/oNXYYzHOEo
— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) January 11, 2019
No longer looking pay a big check, Trump says Mexico will pay for wall under new trade deal. That’s false. https://t.co/B1YuzNRT98
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) January 11, 2019
At a Republican presidential debate in 2016, I asked @realDonaldTrump: "If you don't get an actual check from the Mexican government for $8 billion or $10 billion or $12 billion, whatever it will cost, how are you going to make them pay for the wall?" Here's his response: pic.twitter.com/i7dQea8Ehi
— Wolf Blitzer (@wolfblitzer) January 11, 2019
He’s just pushing it to appease his base. Many people who live on the border are opposed to it. There will be suits over eminent domain when the government seizes property.
3 economists ran the numbers on Trump's border wall.
They found it's a bad investment.-It reduces GDP
-It has only a tiny impact on stemming illegal immigration
-It costs more $$ to build than workers get back in the form of higher payhttps://t.co/qvJTVeUh9Z #wall— Heather Long (@byHeatherLong) January 8, 2019
POLITICO polled the offices of 17 Senate and House members who represent Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California about Trump’s $5.7 billion border barrier request. Only two said they supported it. https://t.co/J7m74iCeri
— POLITICO (@politico) January 10, 2019
He lied before he went to the border.
He lied when he visited the border.
He’s lying now after his trip to the border.
There is no crisis.
Drugs primarily come in through legal checkpoints – the wall wouldn’t stop that.
Everyone wants better border security – the wall is not the best method.
Trump again said today the country is being invaded down at the border. Fact check: False.
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) January 11, 2019
Trump angrily upbraiding reporters for benign portrayal of US-Mexico border: “the media is not telling the American people how bad it is, how dangerous it is – the crime and the drugs and the smuggling of everything. you write about nonsense”
— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) January 11, 2019
We are not in the midst of a conventional negotiation, in which each side is offering concessions in exchange for concessions from the other side.
Here's the basic asymmetry, as clearly as I can explain it:
— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) January 10, 2019
POTUS went to McAllen, where crime is at a 30-year low, for a photo op. 🤔 He used props that were confiscated at customs, not from illegal crossings where there isn't a wall. 🤔 Officials boasted of arresting people who tunneled under existing walls. 🤔 https://t.co/nnxLnZuv89
— Dan Zak (@MrDanZak) January 11, 2019
He’s actually talking about American government cars all loaded up with machine guns, not migrants’ cars. (He just likes talking about how he gets surrounded by machine guns.) https://t.co/J0P2Ue1l4g
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 11, 2019
Confused…which direction is the wall for again? pic.twitter.com/Rr6Lvz8n9B
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) January 11, 2019
Totally get it Don. Thanks for setting me straight. So you’re headed down to Mexico to pick up the check? #buhbye https://t.co/SnGH04gTL6
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) January 11, 2019
fact checked repeatedly as false. Bottomless Pinocchio claim! The heroin comes through legal broader crossings where there would be no wall. https://t.co/HyX7YbTpao
— Glenn Kessler (@GlennKesslerWP) January 11, 2019
Trump's chat with Hannity at the border reminded me of this comment from the anti-Fox group @mmfa: "The entire shutdown is just a show aimed at the Fox News audience." https://t.co/SMjvAvoE00
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) January 11, 2019
This actually happened: Border official shows Trump tunnels under border wallhttps://t.co/Cdlae8xwLo
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) January 11, 2019
Trump says the government hasn't spent $1.6-B Congress earlier approved for border wall because administration follows his real estate practice of paying contractors only after work is done: "if they didn't do a good job, don't pay 'em"
— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) January 11, 2019
It's time for the White House and Senate Republicans to listen to the American people and end the disastrous #TrumpShutdown. https://t.co/Ps5ucZuAQp
— The Democrats (@TheDemocrats) January 8, 2019
I would take the over. He’s going to crush 3.5.
BookMaker, an offshore gambling house that claims 30 years in the business, is laying odds on how many times Trump will lie when he addresses the nation at 9 p.m.
Tell the Senate to end the #TrumpShutdown here: https://t.co/uqr0DalG2m https://t.co/nhGOcqEKLN
#NoWall— Democratic Coalition (@TheDemCoalition) January 8, 2019
Only Trump’s cult wants the wall. It’s a phony crisis.
If the GOP wants a wall so badly, they can try to propose and pass a bill like anybody else.
Instead, they are seizing gov operations + innocent people’s pay until they get what they want.
This is called hostage-taking. And no one can compromise or negotiate with that. https://t.co/utYLL1k8m9
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) January 6, 2019
Ed Zarenski has spent 30 years estimating construction projects. A reality check here about the steel "wall" –> https://t.co/xG0u7DCUp8
— Glenn Kessler (@GlennKesslerWP) January 6, 2019
I wonder if someone would get in trouble with Twitter if they suggested building the wall out of dead Republicans. Asking for a friend.
— Unko Tim (@timmyturmoil) January 7, 2019
I wonder if someone would get in trouble with Twitter if they suggested building the wall out of dead Republicans. Asking for a friend.
— Unko Tim (@timmyturmoil) January 7, 2019
Border wall funding fight is also a fight about basic facts https://t.co/tBw5r1ZpRC via @brianstelter
— Fuego (@NiemanLabFuego) January 7, 2019
"Yes, he can do it in part…on government property," says law professor @steve_vladeck on whether Trump can declare a national emergency to build a border wall.
"A majority of the property along the US/Mexico border is, in fact, private property." https://t.co/jRqHheJub5 pic.twitter.com/JjwUzwNx47
— CNN Newsroom (@CNNnewsroom) January 7, 2019
Trump lied this week that he never said he was going to build a concrete wall, just that he'd build a wall. Found this clip of him telling a little boy in 2015, "I'll tell you what it's going to made of: it's going to be made of hardened concrete." https://t.co/WFc44T1rJc
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 7, 2019
My thought exactly: https://t.co/pqv62hilEf
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) January 7, 2019
When I have done reporting trips to the border, I have been struck by how little enthusiasm I have found for a wall on the part of landowners and others who live there. Worth revisiting how much disruption we are talking about (1/2): https://t.co/yIzk56jneb via @TexasTribune
— Karen Tumulty (@ktumulty) January 8, 2019
I’ve been on the Intelligence Committee for over 10 years. On terrorism and other threats, I’ve received more briefings from FBI, CIA, and DHS than I could count.
How many times have any of them said we need a wall across the southern border?
Zero.
— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) January 8, 2019
There are serious – if not dispositive – arguments that Trump could invoke emergency powers to build his wall. It would be a big court battle, but this may be another place where executive power has been held in check by norms, not bright-line rules. https://t.co/XBzuaZZgbl
— Charlie Savage (@charlie_savage) January 7, 2019
At least, since he has lied so much, the network fact checkers will be ready.
The Democrats will rebut his lies – will Fox News carry the rebuttal?
President Trump will make his case for a border wall on Tuesday night. Here is what to watch for and some of the larger issues the president faces. https://t.co/tN2F6J8xik
— NYT Politics (@nytpolitics) January 8, 2019
Counter-programming: https://t.co/UEl0RH3CqE
— Karen Tumulty (@ktumulty) January 8, 2019
In my experience, immediately fact-checking Trump's immigration lies is harder than immediately fact-checking most other Trump lies — they're often written into his speeches by people more sophisticated at deception than he is.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 8, 2019
I’m in what appears to be the limited media camp that this is the right call.
The federal government’s closing in on a historically long impasse. The person at the top of it should say *something* of substance, and people should easily be able to watch.
Go from there. https://t.co/SgGRROjLw5
— Ross Maghielse (@Maghielse) January 8, 2019
Opinion: Trump wants the networks to carry his speech live. They should look at these charts of his lies. https://t.co/qebN8kaqwY
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) January 8, 2019
As long as the legacy media cares more appearing balanced than accurately informing the public, Trump and the rest of the Republicans who act in bad faith are going to have a structural political advantage.
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) January 8, 2019
Op-ed: Free airtime for President Trump? Not so fast. https://t.co/67gF4QlChQ
— Washington Post Opinions (@PostOpinions) January 8, 2019
The fact that Trump told a huge lie in the *announcement* of his address — that there's a "national security crisis" at the border — means the networks cannot pretend to have any illusions about the level of deception he will employ.
That should figure in their "deliberating." https://t.co/n4zG8QtRfQ
— CEO TESLA (@CEOTESLA5c3f) January 7, 2019
https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1082359022865461249
Journalists are going to fact-check every word of Trump's nationally televised speech. And it won't mean a thing to his supporters. Which tells you everything you need to know about 2019.
— Karen Tumulty (@ktumulty) January 8, 2019
CNN, NBC and CBS all say that they'll carry the Democratic response to Trump live tonight. My impression is that the other major networks will do the same. But some of the details are still being worked out.
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) January 8, 2019
Fact checkers, eat your Wheaties. #POTUS #governmentshutdown #primetime pic.twitter.com/GiO0lfeb9Q
— Brooke Baldwin (@BrookeBaldwin) January 8, 2019
If Trump doesn’t declare a national emergency tonight, it doesn’t mean he won’t in the coming days, aides say. But the president was growing frustrated that the argument for his border wall wasn’t being made effectively enough, so he decided to do it himself. https://t.co/hjVk925sej
— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) January 8, 2019
"It is remarkable how much we now shrug when the President of the United States delegitimizes and dehumanizes our work. The things he said today were so hateful about journalists, and we call that Monday," @brianstelter tells @IChotiner. https://t.co/VMDlqGRZi4
— Michael Kruse (@michaelkruse) January 8, 2019
Prime-time Trump faces credibility crisis | Analysis by CNN's Stephen Collinson https://t.co/A7U9iQOT1I pic.twitter.com/FqoALLzxEA
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) January 8, 2019
People who believe Trump is a dire threat to the country think that TV networks should not help spread his propaganda. People who believe Trump is saving the country think this debate is ludicrous — and indicative of liberal media bias… https://t.co/keyPCJmcuW
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) January 8, 2019
"Don't put the President of the United States on TV because he might lie" is a pretty weird position for a journalist to take. Most people know that Trump is not honest. His policies are not popular (certainly, the wall isn't popular)… https://t.co/wCB7iwFgqg pic.twitter.com/oPQfp1XY9R
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) January 8, 2019
White House officials, aware of their credibility problem, are stressing the importance of internally fact-checking any stats ahead of Trump's address tonight. Trump aides have been repeatedly challenged on the numbers they're using to argue for a wall. https://t.co/F1Fdkq6Ydq
— Rebecca Ballhaus (@rebeccaballhaus) January 8, 2019
The 4,000 figure includes people arriving at other US locations. The actual total for the Mexican border is 6 or 12. I have seen both numbers but that’s way below 4,000. The border crisis is phony. It’s another Trump lie.
This is hilarious. The Trump Admin has been using a 4K number that wasn't "sensitive." Sanders gets challenged on it. NBC News first disclosed, and @CNN confirms, that its fewer than 10 (and those are people on a flawed watch list, likely). Anyway the number is now "sensitive"? https://t.co/nqwrwBWjcC
— Juliette Kayyem (@juliettekayyem) January 8, 2019
Can't make this up.@JuliaEAinsley learned only *SIX* immigrants in U.S. terror database were stopped by CBP at southern border in first half of 2018.@PressSec had said 4,000.@VP, @SecNielsen call it a "security crisis" and Trump wants to declare a national emergency.
— Jacob Soboroff (@jacobsoboroff) January 7, 2019
NBC report blows up Trump's wild claim that 4,000 terrorists were stopped at the border https://t.co/kgrqwTmsrX
— Mother Jones (@MotherJones) January 8, 2019
Roughly 12 individuals on the terror watchlist were encountered by federal officials at the US southern border from October 2017 to October 2018, according to an administration official familiar with data from Customs and Border Protection https://t.co/FnskHvaf3X
— CNN (@CNN) January 8, 2019
Not 4,000. Six. https://t.co/XNwdGZsugc
— Ken Dilanian (@KenDilanianNBC) January 7, 2019
"Nearly 4,000 known or suspected terrorists were apprehended attempting to come into the United States through various means in the last year," Pence said on ABC's "Good Morning America."
That number, however, is deeply misleading, per @Betsy_klein https://t.co/PEZwKoatl8— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 8, 2019
Sad!